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Pittsburgh Democrats hesitate to say who won VP debate: ‘Can I just not answer that question?’

PITTSBURGH — Democrats at a watch party jeered and laughed at Ohio Sen. JD Vance as he faced Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz in Tuesday night’s vice-presidential debate — but they didn’t want to declare a winner.

The Pennsylvania Democratic Party packed more than 100 political junkies into Urban Tap on Pittsburgh’s South Side to watch Donald Trump’s and Kamala Harris’ running mates face off.

One after another, attendees said the debate was a tie — then walked their comments back to insis♎t Walz won💃.

“There wasn’t a clear 🐻wi🌊nner,” Vince DiAngelo, a server from nearby Clairton, told The Post.

DiAngelo was glad to see the two candidates agree on some issues like border problems rather than just yell at each other.

“It gave me some hope,” he said.

JD Vance said he agreed with Tim Walz on some policy points during the vice-presidential debate. AP

But acknowledging he’s a Democrat, DiAngelo said Tim Walz came out on top.

🔥Still, he said, “Vance is far and above Trump,” and would make for a much more competitive presidential contender against Harris.

“He did better than I expected,” said Ellen Ochs, a retired Democratic political operative, of Vance. “Not great. He just didn’t attack the women moderators.” That seemed to be the consensus of the bar where𒉰 she was swirling a glass of white wine.

Ellen Ochs hesitated to say who won the VP debate before handing it to Tim Walz. Ethan Dodd

Asked who won, Oc💖hs responded, ཧ“Can I just not answer that question?”

She finally answered: “It was a tie.”

Then correcting hไerself: “Walz won, but he had a𒈔 slip.”

Ochs emphasized that Walz was honest, and th💙at would serve him well with Pennsylvania voters.

“How can you be in Congress and be th🐻is honest?🅠” she asked in awe, having worked 40 years in Washington.

Walz fumbled when asked about reports he lied about being in Hong Kong during the Tiananmen Square protests. REUTERS

At the same time, she wished Walz would cut to the chase when as▨ked about reporting showing he lied about being in Hong Kong during the 1989 Chinese pro-democracy Tiananmen Square protests.

“It was not a win or lose,” said Michele Margitt🍸ai, a writer and nonprofit professional who said she quit her job to voᩚᩚᩚᩚᩚᩚ⁤⁤⁤⁤ᩚ⁤⁤⁤⁤ᩚ⁤⁤⁤⁤ᩚ𒀱ᩚᩚᩚlunteer for the Harris campaign.

“I appreciated how Vance talked about child care and providing for your children,” from communal support to single-earn♎♔er families like hers, she continued, noticing Walz nodded his head in agreement with the Republican.

“People can rel🦋ate to 🐼that,” her husband, Peter, chimed in.

Michele and Peter Margittai appreciated what JD Vance had to say about child care. Ethan Dodd

“There are a lot of people who are really struggling,” she explained as we walked past homeless people camped out in storefronts outside the bar. “This debate helped people hear about issues that matter to everyday people.”

She added, “The people who rea꧅lly won this debate was the Americജan people.”